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CEO Of 60,000 Person Company On Leading With Vulnerability

Tina Freese Decker is the CEO of Corewell Health

This is a special and exclusive episode which is actually one of the interviews I did for my upcoming book, Leading with Vulnerability: Unlock Your Greatest Superpower to Transform Yourself, Your Team, and Your Organization. I did over 100 of these interviews I’ll be sharing a small selection of them with you. However, to get all of the insights, make sure you pre-order a hardcover copy of the book.

If you do, then make sure to email me proof of purchase to You will get access to 5 more interviews with the CEOs of GE, American Airlines, Edward Jones, and others, the first few chapters of my new book, and an invite to a special webinar I’m hosting before the book launches.

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Today's episode is with Tina Freese Decker, the President and CEO of Corewell Health, with 60,000+ employees and based in Michigan. Today, Tina shares the importance of vulnerability in leadership. She believes that being authentic and vulnerable are not choices but necessities for effective leadership. Tina also emphasizes the significance of knowing oneself, one's values, and one's purpose to build confidence, which in turn enables vulnerability and authenticity.

Tina shares several instances from her career where she had to display vulnerability, such as reconsidering a board decision based on new information and openly discussing the possibility of making the COVID-19 vaccine mandatory for her organization. She also highlights the importance of balancing sharing personal information with the purpose of the conversation and the need to maintain psychological safety, respect, trust, and dignity.

She also discusses the impact of vulnerability on her team. She believes that being authentic and vulnerable helps engage the team more effectively, fostering a sense of togetherness and grit that drives success. She asserts that vulnerability is a key aspect of creating real followership and connection to the organization's purpose.

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If you haven’t heard yet, my new book, Leading With Vulnerability is now available for pre-order! Is vulnerability for leaders the same as it is for everyone else? It turns out it’s not! Learn how the world’s top leaders approach vulnerability in the right way to lead through change, unlock the potential of others, create trust, and drive business performance. Pre-order your copy here and stay tuned for bonuses!

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